# JUP Airdrop Proposal for Season 2 - 2025
**URL:** https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419
**Category:** $JUP
**Tags:** proposal
**Created:** [October 31, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419 "2024-10-31T00:28:48Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 4
### Author:  [@BAYZWISE](https://discuss.jup.ag/u/BAYZWISE)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2024, 3:30pm UTC](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419/62 "2024-11-03T15:30:25Z")
I think he needs to understand the fact that not everyone will agreed with his proposal. it now looking like is forcing it on everyone like spamming it, the best option let team decide the outcome criteria and let vote for it as Dao. Leave everything for Team simple đ¤ˇ
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### Author:  [@JUPWhale](https://discuss.jup.ag/u/JUPWhale)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2024, 4:00pm UTC](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419/63 "2024-11-03T16:00:20Z")
> [@BAYZWISE](#):
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> I think he needs to understand the fact that not everyone will agreed with it proposal.
When you donât agree with something, letâs debate about it. But based on reason and not based on personal attacks, as the one I was replying to.
> [@BAYZWISE](#):
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> the best option let team decide the outcome criteria
They will propose something and DAO will vote, but Maow also said we should discuss and argue about it. The team will likely use any good arguments and data they see on Jupresearch.
> [@Jupuary musings](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jupuary-musings/26511/35):
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> Some good points here! All of this has also been addressed by @meow himself in the last [J.U.P. Really](https://www.youtube.com/live/YL0vpZvmTF8?feature=shared&t=1320). In [the 27-minute section](https://www.youtube.com/live/YL0vpZvmTF8?feature=shared&t=1320) between 22:00 and minute 49:00 he made some really clear statements about the upcoming Jupuary and that there would be a lot of debate and ââfightââ about it in the community. He also said we donât wanât \*\*\*holes in the community or a PVP mindset, and that we should do our best to keep a PPP focus. He called it the greatest DAO experiment ever. Agree witâŚ
The team has been clear about the purpose. **The purpose of Jupuary is:**
1. **Bringing another 2.1 Billion of the 10B JUP token supply into circulation**
2. **Distributing JUP to the millions of Jupiter users** in a decentralised fashion
3. **Incentivising (not rewarding) the community** to engage more with Jupiter
4. **Guerilla marketing method** to create huge hype and (social)media attention
5. Aligning with **Jupiterâs growth mindset** and **inclusive community strategy**
90% - 96% of people only use Jupiter to for regular trading. Any Jupuary proposal leaving out 90%+ of users will simply not be taken serious, as it goes against the goal and ethos of Jupuary and Jupiter. So letâs continue to discuss with the purpose of Jupuary in mind.
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### Author:  [@Asimsy](https://discuss.jup.ag/u/Asimsy)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2024, 4:22pm UTC](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419/64 "2024-11-03T16:22:17Z")
> [@JUPWhale](#):
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> letâs debate about it.
You have spammed this forum for the past week, your rhetoric as apparent on every single proposal. filibustering this thing to death.
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### Author:  [@Shrekt](https://discuss.jup.ag/u/Shrekt)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2024, 6:14pm UTC](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419/65 "2024-11-03T18:14:42Z")
Is there a proof for those claims or only imagination?
> [@JUPWhale](#):
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> With the Jupiter API bots canât do DCA, Limit, Perps, Vote etc so itâs only manually farmed. But manual farming is still farming. There for sure are quite some people in the certain Asian or African countries clicking 20 hours a day with $10, without a bot.
> [@JUPWhale](#):
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> When you donât agree with something, letâs debate about it. But based on reason and not based on personal attacks, as the one I was replying to.
Everyone is coming out with good enough arguments and so far most of us who did any kind of proposal did agree that some changes are possible or even needed, no one from us is stubborn and repeating same sentances continuously.
> [@JUPWhale](#):
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> 90% - 96% of people only use Jupiter to for regular trading. Any Jupuary proposal leaving out 90%+ of users will simply not be taken serious, as it goes against the goal and ethos of Jupuary and Jupiter. So letâs continue to discuss with the purpose of Jupuary in mind.
I could easily take a bet that the **maximum amount of real users is no more than 10%** from the total number (and thatâs with huge safety margin from my side). Those users who are left out because of overtightening maybe they wonât be lucky, maybe itâs because the competition for airdrops is very high right now unlike 2020/21. Game is game, gotta adapt. But there is no way any reasonable person in that space **who doesnât have financial incentives** can agree with the fact that 100k$ or 1m$ in swaps canât be gamed or they barely are, but those products with 100x less activity are gamed at 100%, it ainât working like that buddy.
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### Author:  [@Jazy](https://discuss.jup.ag/u/Jazy)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2024, 6:30pm UTC](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419/66 "2024-11-03T18:30:24Z")
Ofc itâs imagination
Iâm part of a few private discord communites, and the majority of them already collaborated with projects that sell bots to farm those features.
Staking is the less botable/farmed facet because of the long unlock period
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### Author:  [@davidkim](https://discuss.jup.ag/u/davidkim)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419/67 "2024-11-03T20:36:03Z")
Only thing i disagree is that imo only stakers should be eligible, and then all those other criteria you mentioned will be boosters to calculate the allocation
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### Author:  [@Axe\_Titties](https://discuss.jup.ag/u/Axe_Titties)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419/68 "2024-11-03T20:36:29Z")
I applaud you for the general structure of the thinking and generally like the clarity and thought through it.
While I appreciate JUP stakers are important members of the ecosystem, they are already well rewarded by ASR. I do agree, JUP stakers as important members of the ecosystem, should have some sort of inclusiong but 20% of the pool is a bit too much, considering ASR already rewards members for staking. Jupuary should be to reward and encourage more users of the Jupiter ecosystem.
I do generally agree with the way you have carved up the other elements. Thank you for sharing!
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### Author:  [@Gohardorgoohm](https://discuss.jup.ag/u/Gohardorgoohm)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2024, 6:16am UTC](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419/69 "2024-11-04T06:16:39Z")
I must really commend your skill and patience in carefully curating and analyzing different criteria which might be used. As you said earlier, its just a proposal. Lets see what the team comes up with. Weldone and đ
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### Author:  [@ahmads](https://discuss.jup.ag/u/ahmads)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2024, 8:26am UTC](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419/70 "2024-11-04T08:26:35Z")
i think this is the best proposal so far for jupuary
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### Author:  [@TabiZzFR](https://discuss.jup.ag/u/TabiZzFR)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2024, 8:34am UTC](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419/71 "2024-11-04T08:34:59Z")
I donât understand why Pers would be more than DCA and Limits⌠whatâs the point of splitting the rewards between features and not give the same amount for each
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### Author:  [@SOLseeker](https://discuss.jup.ag/u/SOLseeker)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2024, 8:41am UTC](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419/72 "2024-11-04T08:41:39Z")
I donât feel like fee based products can be farmed. The jup team would love millions of âfarmersâ using the products, if this were the case.
Swap can be farmed due to API & lack of fees.
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### Author:  [@Shrekt](https://discuss.jup.ag/u/Shrekt)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2024, 8:59am UTC](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419/73 "2024-11-04T08:59:29Z")
I think that perps deserve bigger allocation since they are probably the largest or second largest fee generator for the platform.
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### Author:  [@Shrekt](https://discuss.jup.ag/u/Shrekt)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2024, 9:04am UTC](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419/74 "2024-11-04T09:04:18Z")
This is an interesting approach, like having minimum 2/3 categories tagged in order to be eligible and then multiplier for every other category/time-spent
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### Author:  [@MrCricas](https://discuss.jup.ag/u/MrCricas)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2024, 10:07am UTC](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419/75 "2024-11-04T10:07:56Z")
Yeah agree. The big difference is that perp users actually pay a fee to JUP while SWAPs, etc. are totally free so I think perps users should get a bigger cut (I never even used perps just want to stay PPP)
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### Author:  [@MrCricas](https://discuss.jup.ag/u/MrCricas)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2024, 10:09am UTC](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419/76 "2024-11-04T10:09:39Z")
There are a lot of bots for generating volume on JUP, but most of them will get rekt by the most basic sybil algo. Spamming txs on new wallets with no background, buying and selling the same tokens with nothing else⌠every single algo will get those wallets and screw the owners.
And of course Meow already said that this round of Jupuary will take have sybil unlike the 2024â Jupuary
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### Author:  [@JUPWhale](https://discuss.jup.ag/u/JUPWhale)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2024, 10:19am UTC](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419/77 "2024-11-04T10:19:21Z")
> [@Shrekt](#):
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> Is there a proof for those claims or only imagination?
Yes, the **[Jupiter API](https://station.jup.ag/docs/apis/swap-api)** canât do DCA, Limit, Perps, Vote etc, so these can only be farmed manually. That is why the data youâre showing to support your argument is invalid. You can **[read the Jupiter API documentation here](https://station.jup.ag/docs/apis/swap-api)**. And:
> [@Jupiter Airdrop Proposal for JUPUARY (January 2025)](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jupiter-airdrop-proposal-for-jupuary-january-2025/23119/196):
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> **I have prove that DCA, Limit Order, (Vote and Perps) are being gamed.**
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> You can see it clearly when you look at YouTubers on the topic of Jupiter airdrop.
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> They all tell their audience to use all different features like DCA, Limit Order, Vote and Perps. You get these results in YouTube simply by searching for ââJupiter Airdropââ, but all these videoâs are void of any interesting information and are only about farming the JUP airdrop.
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> YouTuber Example 1: [Jupiter Airdrop Season 2 - FULL TUTORIAL GUIDE](https://youtu.be/mi5e06V2_Xg?feature=shared&t=85)
> YouTuber Example 2: [Claim Airdrop + JUPITER Airdrop Season 2 - DO THIS NOW](https://youtu.be/tQuBFCHO_KE?feature=shared&t=365)
> YouTuber Example 3: [THE NEXT JUPITER AIRDROP WILL BE BIGGER THAN THE LAST!!](https://youtu.be/zzi38KEjNZo?feature=shared&t=258)
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> FYI I think this kind of content is absolute junk. Iâm sharing it to prove that **farmers actually focus on using DCA, Limit Order, Vote and Perps.** Most will do it with relatively low volume.
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> Thatâs why adjusted volume determined tiers are still the best way to exclude illegitimate use. Youâd need to apply a minimum volume requirement of $1,000 for the most allocation. The team would also have to do deduplication and anti-Sybil with blockchain analysis.
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### Author:  [@JUPWhale](https://discuss.jup.ag/u/JUPWhale)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2024, 10:25am UTC](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419/78 "2024-11-04T10:25:36Z")
Stop it with your baseless accusations!
> [@Jazy](#):
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> Ofc itâs imagination
It seems youâre not even familiar with the **[basic rules and guidelines for catdets](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/case-study-distribution-strategy-for-700m-jup-tokens/26515/35)**.
_ââ Severe Accusations Require âSevereâ Evidence_
_Explanation: Disagreements can happen, but if youâre going to make serious claims, make sure youâve got the facts to back them up. This rule ensures that we stay fair and focused on truth, not just assumptions or emotions.ââ_
Unlike yourself, I have provided several points of proof for my statements:
> [@JUP Airdrop Proposal for Season 2 - 2025](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419/77):
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> Yes, the [Jupiter API](https://station.jup.ag/docs/apis/swap-api) canât do DCA, Limit, Perps, Vote etc, so these can only be farmed manually. That is why the data youâre showing to support your argument is invalid. You can [read the Jupiter API documentation here](https://station.jup.ag/docs/apis/swap-api). And:
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### Author:  [@Shrekt](https://discuss.jup.ag/u/Shrekt)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2024, 10:34am UTC](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419/79 "2024-11-04T10:34:31Z")
You showed me proof that Jupiter API canât do dca,limit, perps, vote etc. and thatâs fine - nobody disagrees on that part. I asked for proof that someone in Mumbai or some other poor part of the world is doing it manually (if we have members from Mumbai, please accept my apologies i just gave example). As for my part i showed you the 100x difference in number of active wallets and thatâs a proof that those activities are way less (or not at all) farmed and therefore there are significant chances that high % of those users are actually real.
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### Author:  [@JUPWhale](https://discuss.jup.ag/u/JUPWhale)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2024, 11:05am UTC](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419/80 "2024-11-04T11:05:15Z")
> [@Shrekt](#):
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> I asked for proof that someone in Mumbai or some other poor part of the world is doing it manually (if we have members from Mumbai, please accept my apologies i just gave example)
Yes I provided proof for that in my reply, but you have to click on the down arrow to collapse it.
> [@Jupiter Airdrop Proposal for JUPUARY (January 2025)](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jupiter-airdrop-proposal-for-jupuary-january-2025/23119/196):
>
> **I have prove that DCA, Limit Order, (Vote and Perps) are being gamed.**
>
> You can see it clearly when you look at YouTubers on the topic of Jupiter airdrop. These YouTubers are doing it themselves, and are telling thousands of others how to do it too.
>
> They all tell their audience to use all different features like DCA, Limit Order, Vote and Perps. You get these results in YouTube simply by searching for ââJupiter Airdropââ, but all these videoâs are void of any interesting information and are only about farming the JUP airdrop.
>
> YouTuber Example 1: [Jupiter Airdrop Season 2 - FULL TUTORIAL GUIDE](https://youtu.be/mi5e06V2_Xg?feature=shared&t=85)
> YouTuber Example 2: [Claim Airdrop + JUPITER Airdrop Season 2 - DO THIS NOW](https://youtu.be/tQuBFCHO_KE?feature=shared&t=365)
> YouTuber Example 3: [THE NEXT JUPITER AIRDROP WILL BE BIGGER THAN THE LAST!!](https://youtu.be/zzi38KEjNZo?feature=shared&t=258)
>
> FYI I think this kind of content is absolute junk. Iâm sharing it to prove that **farmers actually focus on using DCA, Limit Order, Vote and Perps.** Most will do it with relatively low volume.
> [@Shrekt](#):
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> As for my part i showed you the 100x difference in number of active wallets and thatâs a proof that those activities are way less (or not at all) farmed and therefore there are significant chances that high % of those users are actually real.
Iâve not seen you share any 100X proof. You can share it here as a reply if you have it. [Your graphs showing swap and DCA users](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419/57) only show the difference in total success transactions.
I have proven that the above point proves nothing, because the **[Jupiter API](https://station.jup.ag/docs/apis/swap-api)** can only be used on swaps and not on DCAâs. The failed transaction % always signifies bot usage.
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### Author:  [@Shrekt](https://discuss.jup.ag/u/Shrekt)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2024, 11:20am UTC](https://discuss.jup.ag/t/jup-airdrop-proposal-for-season-2-2025/26419/81 "2024-11-04T11:20:31Z")
Your proof is that some youtubers published a video and they said that doing dca,limit orders, etc. gonna make you eligible for the airdrop? By that same logic if i upload a tutorial how to make meth will all the meth in the world be made because i did that video? This is pathetic.
I published the proof of 100x difference (roughly) that at same day i published the examples that there are 285.35k active swappers vs 3.24k dca users for same day.
And with that i am stopping replying to you because itâs like i am arguing with a wall.
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